by Br. Alexis Bugnolo
Today a faithful reader asked me in private this question. And having responded in private, I think my response is something worthy of an Editorial here at FromRome.Info. We need to move away from name calling in regard to the different views about the Russo-Ukrainian War and begin to think about the facts and reports that we see in the news.
So, here is my response to the Question:
What about all those photos of Nazi Flags in the Ukraine?
The answer to your question why you may see a Nazi flag or a Flag of the German Wehrmacht in the Ukraine, is in my opinion, that the Ukrainians were starved to death under Stalin. 10 million of them. So when Hitler invaded they saw it as a liberation. Many still think that way. They are not antisemitic or Nazis, they are just Ukrainian nationalists. In fact, here in Europe, when many youth want to irk a Marxist, they make a Nazi salute or Mussolini salute as they pass him. It has no historical significance to them, though. And if you ask them, you find that they are not Nazis at all, they are just grasping for something they barely know about as a sign of their present malcontent.
As for why Zelensk would be in a photo-op with such a flag — presuming that photo is authentic an not Russian propaganda — I think what I just wrote is the explanation, having actually met with Ukrainians in Europe and spoken with them at length..
When I compare this to Americans who often are seen with Confederate Flags, I find similarities. Having lived in the South (Florida, Alabama, Arkansas briefly) many years, though being from the North, I know that many Southerners show that Flag not because they want to start a civil war or are racists, but because they admire the culture of the south and the achievements of the South and want to display their disassociation from the culture or identity of the North.
Also, as I know happens in the USA, if the MSM finds one confederate flag — or as in Canada when Trudeau actually sent a friend to insert such a flag in the Trucker protest — the MSM uses it as a tag to pin on them to make them look bad. I see that the Russians are playing the same game in Ukraine. So I do not draw any conclusions from it, but I do continue to gather information on persons and groups.
I think it is ridiculous to claim Zelensky is a Nazi, just as it is ridiculous to claim that Hitler was not a jew. Hitler pretended to be German because he wanted to use Germans to destroy Europe. He actually killed more Germans and Christians than Jews, but you would not know that from history books, since they do not draw out the conclusion!
I do not see Zelensky even being accused of using Nazi flags to genocide anyone or promote racism. His politics are quite the contrary. Nor is he a Peronist, who plays all sides. He knows, as I have explained, that the Azov regiment was founded to protect coal by a Jewish Oligarch. That some members waved those flags or use them as signs of Ukrainian nationalism, not National Socialism, is understood for what it is, not what scaremongers in the West would want you to believe it is.
And the claims of physical abuse or murder against units or persons in the Azov regiment or elsewhere, are, if they are true, signs of grave corruption, but not reasons to throw the 43 million Christians in the Ukraine under the bus. The Azov regiment moreover is composed of foreigners, not entirely, but it by no means can be claimed to represent only native sympathies.
Actually I think it is the non-Christians in the west who are trying to convince the Christians in the West, through these images of Nazi flags, to throw Christians under the bus in the Ukraine, so that the NWO objectives can be achieved. And I think Christians who fall for this kind of manipulation are very naive. Moreover, the present government of the Ukraine is doing more than any other government in the world right now to defend Christian families and preserve their traditional way of life. So to turn against that government because of a few flags I believe is totally insane.
In addition, one must understand what a flag is and what waving a flag means. A flag is a symbol. It is is therefore equivalent to a sign or word. Thus waving a flag is equivalent morally to saying something. But what you say means what it means in the context of what you do. If you wave a Confederate Flag while shooting Nazis in WWII, then you are clearly not signifying that you are a Southern racist who wants to lynch black people or start a civil war in the USA. You are signifying that you are an American who has the zeal and courage in battle as the Southerners did in their war of self defense. Likewise if you wave a Nazi flag while shooting Jews, you signify something different than if you wave the same flag while shooting Russians. To ignore this is to allow ideological presuppositions to distort reality itself.
Finally, let’s consider some facts:
1) The Azov Battalion pledges loyalty to a Jewish President and Prime Minister.
2) Russian Federation Forces did destroy a Holocaust Memorial, and are destroying Christian Churches, but is not exclusively seeing out Azov members.
So if Russia is waging war to fight Nazis, they are certainly not showing it. And if Azov are real Nazis, they are certainly not showing it.
Now does Jesus say we should judge people by their words or deeds?
As for the photo which is featured above in this article, before you draw any conclusions, ask yourself where was the photo taken and whether the flags being flow were being flowed as memorabilia or a unit designations or political statements of the group or individuals. Otherwise, if you jump to conclusions to justify a war against Ukraine, someone might find a similar photo one day of youth in your own country and justify genociding everyone in your neighborhood on that account, while quoting what you said on your own social media profile about the above photo. So remember, crows come home to roost.
Sia lodato GESU CRISTO e AVE MARIA ❤️
Sorry, Fra Alexis, as a Romanian I can tell you that we, also, sufferred A LOT during the soviet and communist regimes !
They were starved to death, we were deported and killed in many other different ways !
All our 12 Greek-Catholic Bishops were put in prison, 7 of them just died in there. Others, long years of prison, like many other priests, both orthodox and protestant pastors. All who opposed the regim.
We sufferred from both sides, we (a lot of orthodox priests managed to) rescued Jewish families from Transilvania who risked the deportation by the hungarian authorities which were in power during that period. Just ask older Jewish people ! In the last years cca 300 000 request for romanian citizenship by Jewish people. Ask why ?!
We never, but NEVER, the last generations, take the NAZI flag ! Even that All of us fear more the soviet regimes more than other!
With all respect, there are some facts with that flag….. 😟
Well the head of the Azov unit is a Polish police man. So I cannot say if the Germany flags are being used by Ukrainians or by foreigners in Ukraine. But thank you for your testimony. The Romanians seem more perceptive than others. Saw that in the reaction to the Scamdemic.
Dear Fra Alexis I am also a romanian , and my granfather was a greek-catholic priest in Transilvania during WWII. He told my father that the german officers whom he met in his village while they were going to the front were very polite, noble and I myself have heared of many devoted catholic soldiers who fought and died bravely. The greatest german fighter pilot ace was Major Werner Molders and a devout catholic . I know a german is not necessarily a nazi but please tell me whether Hitler was really a church persecutor as wikipedia describes him or it is just another lie of the mainstream media. I have read so many conflicting reports , such as the case of the priest Kolbe who died at Auschwitz like so many other priests in concentration camps or on the contrary Hitler painting bible scenes in his youth and Goering attending his catholic wedding , and saw even pictures on front with german soldiers kneeling before the blessed sacrament and attending mass that I cannot make a complete picture by myself. Please let me know in short . And kind regards fron Romania. I always mention you in my daily Rosary praier
It is a historical fact that Adolf Hitler was a baptised Catholic and did attend mass. However, the Catholic party recognized that he was not faithful to the Faith and did not support him until Pius XII asked them too for the sake of obtaining protection of the Church under the Nazi regime. Many Catholics were martyred by Hitler for opposing him, and many served him not recognizing how evil he was. False obedience is a powerful weapon to deceive even practicing Catholics. So, yes, Hiter was Jewish by blood, but in religion we cannot deny he began as a Catholic, even though there is much evidence that he became a satanist. Does that mean that all in the German Wermacht were evil. They were not evil in as much as they were vicious men, but they served an evil end even if they only recognized it at the end. Those are two ways a man can be evil and they both lead to hell.
Maybe because the last 2000 years the romanians sufferred the most by all sorts of invasions from every single direction in their own land?! And sufferred a lot by the hand of their own traitors ? Our instinc tell us that only God and His Holy Mother are on our side.
As Christians WE HAVE TO help every one who is in need: Russian, Ukrainian (even that Ukrainian authorities treat very bad our Romanian people in Bucovina de Nord, region took from us and gave to the Ukraine – I am half from Bucovina ), Jew, German, Muslim, every single person that need help. Maybe so they will see Jesus in us….
Thanks for giving the correct context of the Confederate BATTLE Flag. To Texans like me it means “heritage, not hate”. Good, non racist Americans in the South who are historically literate use it as a contrarian statement of State’s rights to make their own legislation, — against a godless Federal government which increasingly erodes Constitutional rights of Americans.
(The Flag of the Confederate States of America [CSA] itself was different from the Battle flag — look it up; it doesn’t excite the controversy of “The Stars & bars” of the Battle Flag.)
If I could afford it, I would provide the Ukrainian battle units with Confederate Battle Flags to replace the hated Nazi ones. It would make more historical sense, and Americans would really “Get” what the war is about. They would be worthy successors of those in the old South who fought NOT in defense of slavery, — but of Constitutional right to their own sovereignty in areas not properly belonging to the Federal government. (e.g, national security, foreign policy, coining money, postal service, interstate highway system, etc. )
R. Wenner. Thanks. I hope you promote Ordo Miltaris Radio and TV. Based on your comments, I think you would appreciate some of the work of Peter Helland at his channel Israel.
@R Werner I agree with you.
Thank you, areader, for the explanation of the “STATES RIGHTS” issue as paramount in the War Between the States..1861 .1865. or the CivilWar.One has to dig deeper than MSMedia and popular novels accounts to know that it wasnt about slavery.
For the North, it was about bringing American unity so as to be secretly controlling both No and So by Marxism and Communism..implement ing a godless country, a modernist mindset where all supernatural answers and revelations are scoffed at and edited out of news, literature, and religion. There is evidence that the Am Civil War was plotted in London in the 1840s by Marx, Engels. Engels, thru Kuhn Loeb bankers financed Engels to help Lincoln win it. Flying the Confederate flag is therefore legit but MSM wont ever tell the truth, the whole truth, so help me God. Truth is indeed stranger than fiction.
Caro editore,
cosa avrebbe dato fastidio sulla pubblicazione del mio commento, forse la verità?!
Non sono questi certo i miei problemi
Gentile Lux,
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The point is understood. I remember growing up in the early 80’s in Europe and spraying Nazi symbols on school walls. The “punk” movement often used it. It was not meant to be an antisemitic statement, it was symbolic of disdain towards authority in general (kids with a bad attitude, I know).
I appreciate your analysis. Having lived in both Europe and the US, I can attest there are differences in the way people understand certain symbols. For example, “liberal” and “conservative” in Europe are perceived differently than in the US. And also, Communism vs. Socialism are viewed differently.