Catholics in Phoenix Diocese start website to watch their own Bishop

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14 thoughts on “Catholics in Phoenix Diocese start website to watch their own Bishop”

  1. it’s about time the laity stand up and start taking action to protect our traditional, orthodox, one, true, catholic and apostolic faith!

    we are NOT the schismatics! we are the faithful and traditional
    who LOVE our King of Kings and Lord of Lords and His and our Holy Mother Mary…….

  2. Br Bugnolo,
    Off topic, but I am taking classes at a local Catholic church and I have a question re the Nicene Creed.

    “And in the Holy Spirit, the Lord and giver of Life, who proceeds from the Father and the Son.”

    It seems to me to be presumptuous to assume that the Holy Spirit “proceeds” from the Father and the Son. How do we know that He has not eternally coexisted with the Father and the Son? Surely the exact workings of the Trinity are beyond the comprehension of us mere humans.

    I would appreciate your insight on this subject.
    Thank you.
    Deborah

    1. Our Lord teaches, of the Holy Spirit, that He proceeds from the Father in John 15:26. Here the Greek says,

      ὃ παρὰ τοῦ Πατρὸς ἐκπορεύεται (Berean Greek version)

      Elsewhere, Our Lord says, “I and the Father are one”.

      And in the Gospels, of the Holy Spirit, that He is the Spirit of the Father, such as in Matthew 10:20

      for it will not be you speaking, but the Spirit of your Father speaking through you.

      τὸ Πνεῦμα τοῦ Πατρὸς (berean Greek)

      and of the Son, as in Galatians 4:6

      Because you are his sons, God sent the Spirit of his Son into our hearts, the Spirit who calls out, “Abba, Father.”

      τὸ Πνεῦμα τοῦ Υἱοῦ (berean Greek)

      Therefore, by logical inference, the Holy Spirit proceeds from the Son: for if He proceeds from the Father and is thus said to be the Spirit of the Father, if He is said equally to be the Spirit of the Son, He must proceed from the Son.

      I leave aside the fact that “proceeds” in English means something less specific that the Greek in John 15:26, but that is for another day.

      We must understand that words are icons of signification. And the name of the 3rd person, the Holy Spirit, plays upon 2 ideas, the Name of a singular Divine Person, and the Holy Breath of God. And so one can speak of the 3rd person as a person and as life breath. In Latin, proceeds captures both ideas, since anthropomorphically, an individual both walks (procedere) and has a life breath. In Greek the word for “proceeds” is more specific (comes forth from), as it regards the origin from, rather than he going forth (pro-cedere, walking forward). And thus the Greeks seek to find fault with us Latins.

  3. Wow! That’s a great explanation. Thank you.

    But it leads to another question. Since the New Testament was written in Greek, wouldn’t you naturally give preference to Greek definitions? (No offence to your Latiness, lol.)

  4. Ok. If there is an email or some other site you would like for me to address my questions, please let me know.

    The couple who are teaching my class are pretty knowledgeable and very nice and willing to help me, but they do not have your depth of knowledge. They are neither theologians nor historians.

    If God is leading me to conversion, then this could be one of the most significant events of my life. So far, all I know for sure is that He wants me to take this class. Conversion to the Catholic Church is not something I have ever desired or sought after.

    But if the Lord wants it, I do not take it lightly. I intend to investigate the subject thoroughly. There are certain stumbling blocks that I can see, and I am not a person who will “go along to get along”. I’m grateful for these good teachers, but sometimes I will require a second opinion, just to be sure. And some things they just don’t know.

    Right now I’m trying to create a timeline of people and events in the early church years ( what a headache-nobody agrees on dates!) and studying Clement’s epistle to the Corinthians.

    I appreciate any help you can give me, but of course I will wait until you move. I will pray for the Lord to smooth your path. Moving is always such a rough job. And of course I always pray for you anyway.

    Your friend,
    Deb

    1. Deb,

      I thought you were already a Catholic!

      Try to get a copy of the History of the Church, by Father Philip Hughes. That’s the best history written in the last 100 years in the English language.

      1. No, but I am definitely a Christian!

        I will make a note of the book you recommended, and pick up a copy when I can afford it.

        Thanks for your help, and good luck with your move.

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