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Dr. Chojnowski’s Presentation on the Two Sister Lucia’s to OH Coroner’s Conference

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Editor’s Note: The presentation of evidence concludes with a letter from the Conference organizer stating that 100 coroners who reviewed the evidence presented in this video agreed unanimously that the Sr. Lucy depicted in photographs before 1960 is a different person from the one shown to the public after 1966. And he further states that this must be investigated, since it implicates the possibility of the murder of the original woman. — This disappearance or replacement of the real Sr. Lucy rips the entire mask off the Vatican II Aggiornamento, as something much more sinister than we were ever led to believe. Alas, Dr. Chojnowski who discovered this, has completely omitted any critical though into the election of Prevost.

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12 thoughts on “Dr. Chojnowski’s Presentation on the Two Sister Lucia’s to OH Coroner’s Conference”

  1. You should add to your commentary your personal experience of examining the Carmelite obituary list, which originally indicated Sr. Lucia’s death in 1959.

  2. Brother, i wonder if you have another accounting of that. i seem to remember your account as confirming that Lucia died in ’58 (as had been long rumoured). i also seem to remember that they took down the notice once you enquired about it without telling you anything…

    (then again, i “seem” to remember a lot of things!🤓)

    1. Yes, that is what I found. When I first heard of the idea that there could be two women, I found online the Necrology of the Carmelite Order, maintained by their Generalte at Rome, and I searched for the name Lucia, and found a death record for the month of July or August, 1958, and when I wrote to their archivist, I asked how that could be, was it the same woman, and he wrote back saying, it must have ben a mistake and so removed the online file and replaced it with one which did not include her.

      1. Brother, after having slept on it, i realized that the article that you linked to (above) was indeed the article that i remembered. Fwiw, here’s a comment of yours in response to someone who claimed that she had died shortly after entering Carmel…

        ” Editor

        DECEMBER 9, 2022 AT 12:29 AM

        No, the necrology read 1958/9, as I saw it myself… “

  3. As a child, I was intrigued by Fatima. I read so many books on Fatima and watched every single movie. The 2020 movie was a huge disappointment because it was not the message of Fatima. Anyway, what I found most interesting was after the public apparitions, the children continued to have private revelation especially Jacinta and Francisco before their early deaths.

    In one of the books (can’t remember which one) written by Sister Lucia and published before 1960, Lucia writes how our Lady appeared to Jacinta and asked her if she wanted to make more sacrifices for sinners. After the child said yes, the Blessed Mother told her that she would travel to two hospitals for medical procedures and die alone in one hospital without her mother, Lucia or her family.

    At this point, Jacinta was about 9 and had no idea what a hospital really was and was very frightened but graciously accepted this suffering. Lucia described in her book, how Jacinta would hug her so tightly and said, (paraphrase) “Maybe the hospital will be dark and I will not be able to see you or my mother but I will do it to save souls.” Another time and this always struck a nerve with me, Jacinta said (paraphrase), “I’m going to the hospital to die now. Never tell the secret even if they kill you, Lucia.”

    Yes, I am 100% sure that I read that and I remember it well because as a therapist who has worked with children for almost 25 years, this is an unusual thing for a 9 year old girl in 1919 or 1920 from her poverty stricken background to say. Kids today talk all about killing from movies and video games but the Fatima children did not have exposure to any of that. Jacinta was the most prophetic of all of them if you ask me. It was an interesting phrase that she let slip. Perhaps that is why Lucia included it in her book.

    I think the book I’m referring to is when the Bishop asked Lucia to write of her memories of Jacinta after they moved her body back to Fatima and Lucia saw the pictures of Jacinta’s dead body. She wrote a rather long memoir of Jacinta to the Bishop.

    Furthermore, on the apparition of June 13, Our Lady said that both Jacinta and Francisco would be dying soon. She told Lucia that she would stay here on earth to spread Her message. “How long will you stay here? Francisco asked. “Plenty of years,” answered Lucia. “Yes, I saw that too, said Jacinta in the light that radiated from Her hand. You were in the light on the earth and Francisco and I were in the light going to Heaven.”

    So, my point is after the apparition of June 13, Jacinta and Francisco learned of their impending deaths and I think perhaps Lucia learned something about her death too. Why not? Our Lady told the other two about their deaths. Remember, the real Lucia stated to the Bishop (paraphrase), There are some things that remain private between my cousins and I that I will not write about….

    I guess it is just speculation on my part but I find that phrase, “even if they kill you” to be very interesting.

    I’ll try to look up the specific book.

  5. I think you will find that the doctor is a sedevacantist, and thinks all popes since Pius XII are antipopes.

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